Stunt performers explain why The Fall Guy's fight to get stunts included at the Oscars is so important | CBC News (2024)

Explosions. Death-defying falls. Swords, guns, car crashes and balls of fire.

For some, those are terrifying possibilities of a day gone very wrong. But for the new film The Fall Guy, and the stunt performers it seeks to celebrate, it's just another day at the office.

The new film, starring Ryan Gosling and helmed by stuntman-turned-director David Leitch, ostensibly tells the story of stuntman-turned-investigator Colt Seavers. But at its heart,The Fall Guy is actually aboutshowcasing the indispensable contribution of Hollywood's stunt performers, and — as Gosling recently saidat an L.A. red carpet eventfor the film: "This movie is just a giant campaign to get stunts an Oscar."

While there's been a long-running campaign to do just that, getting the contributions of those workersacknowledged at film's biggest night has been an uphill battle with seemingly no end in sight.

CBC News talked to three stunt performers from around the country about why it matters tohave their work recognized andwhat it means that The Fall Guy is trying so hard to accomplish it.

Angelica Lisk-Hann

As the first Black female stunt co-ordinator in Canada, Toronto's Angelica Lisk-Hann has seen firsthand how much the industry has changed.

"It's funny. I remember when I first started performing stunts, the termwas 'Meat Puppet,' " she said, of what stunt performers were often called." 'Yeah, here's some money for the rental of your body for the day,' type of situation."

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Things have improved since the early days of her career,and that's partly because of Lisk-Hann herself. After learning that the Canadian Screen Awards did not have a stuntcategory, she started a campaign toinclude one.

After seeing the categoryadded to the 2020 ceremony, Lisk-Hanntook home the very first stunt trophyfor her work on the Canadian drama seriesMary Kills People. Now, she says, the goal is to get the same recognition for stunt performers atthe Academy Awards.

Other awarding bodies have made moves to celebrate stunts,includingthe Screen ActorsGuild, the Taurus World Stunt Awards and the Vulture Stunt Awards. But the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the organizing body for the Oscars, has been hesitant to do the same, andLisk-Hann finds that confusing.

"It is 'Arts and Sciences,' right?" she said, noting thatinThe Fall Guy, there's a classic stunt known as a cannon roll that features a performer doing eight and a half revolutions in a car crash."The old record was seven. Do you think that took some science?"

Lisk-Hann believes some of that hesitancy is because there's a resistance to acknowledging thatA-list actors onscreen aren't always performing the astounding feats that audiences witness.

But the reality, she explains, is that nearly every iconic character is built equally by their primary actorand their stunt performer. She pointsto Leonardo DiCaprio's Oscar for best actor in The Revenant — and thewell-knownscene in which his character,played by a stunt performer, is attacked by a bear.

Each of those performances was equally important to building the character, Lisk-Hannsays,but only one took home a trophy.

"Without Leo, there's no award," she said. "Without the stunter, there's no award."

Lauro Chartrand-DelValle

Vancouver's Lauro Chartrand-DelValle always knew he wanted to be in movies — just not as a standard actor.

When he was just eight years old, he went to see a Chuck Norris movie with his mother and told her that was what he wanted to do when he grew up.

"And she said, 'What, be like Chuck Norris?' And I said 'No, like the guyhe's kicking through the wall.'"

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After his first stunt roleon the TV seriesMacGyverin 1991, he moved on to stepping in for stars like Antonio Banderas, and appearing in films includingThe Cabin in the Woods, Rumble in the Bronx,2012,Deadpool and the newseries Shogun.

Despitethe head-on motorcycle collisions, 70-foot free falls and fightsChartrand-DelVallehas performed, he says the primary intent of his work as a stunt actor is to be forgotten.

"I remember when I first started, my mom was always so excited: 'Oh, can't wait to see you in this movie,' " he recalled, adding that he would tell her she probably wouldn't see him. "If you see me, I didn't do my job properly."

In the earlier days of film, Chartrand-DelVallesaysstunt performers rarely asked for or received any credit, and for stunt performers to appearin the credits at all was rare.

While he saysthe work aloneused to be enough, there's a growing trend for stunt performers to share in the accoladesand earn an acknowledgement of their importance in a story's creation.

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"When you're not invited to the party, that always hurts a little bit," he said.And when a movie that does wellis celebrated for its action scenes, he says he can't help but wonder, "Who provided that action?"

But Chartrand-DelVallesays The Fall Guyis a step in the right direction.

"Everybody's really proud and excited that it may bring the recognition that stunt people deserve."

Jean Frenette

Montreal stunt performer and co-ordinator Jean Frenette has a special interest in the success of The Fall Guy.

A longtime stuntman with credits stretching back four decades, Frenette not only worked alongside David Leitch in Deadpool 2 and 300, the two are close friends.

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Because of that, he says he knows firsthand how hard Leitchand his team have pushed to showcase the importance of stunt work.

"Not saying that it is the most important thing, but it's a collaborative effort," he said. "So everybody's putting in the effort to make it a success."

Frenette says part of the reason The Fall Guyis focusing on that work is because of how much audiences already appreciate the work stunt performers do.

"People are not stupid nowadays. They can tell if there's been a cheat or some visual effects little trick happening at some point to replace the real guy," he said.

"When you see Tom Cruise or the other guys doing the real thing —at some point you need a stunt double, but still it's a human being doing it, [and] it makes a big difference."

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When it comes to the stunt performers themselves, he saysthe reason they continue to pursue it despite the danger and lack of recognitionis because of a love for the craft.

"When you're a kid …you just play," he said. "Now we're doing the same thing. We're grown-ups and we're kind of doing the same thing."